Exploring Different Persepectives on Gun Laws

Steve Adubato sits down with Alejandro Roubian, President & Managing Editor, New Jersey Second Amendment Society, and Brett Sabo, New Jersey Chapter Lead, Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, to explore the different perspectives on gun laws in New Jersey and throughout the nation.

11/23/19 #121






"Welcome to Think Tank. I'm Steve Adubato. We're about to have a conversation about gun violence. It's respectful. It's civil. We'll have the folks here who have very different views on it. First, I'd like to introduce Brett Sabo, who is New Jersey chapter lead, Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America. Aljandro Roubian, who is, in fact, president and managing editor of the New Jersey Second Amendment Society. Good to have you both. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Okay. You were in the green room together, right before... which is actually green, here at NJTV, right before you came on. Mm hmm. Did you wind up agreeing on any of these issues in the meantime? While we were in the green room? Yeah. Like, so universal background checks. You agree now on that? I don't know. We didn't talk about that. You didn't talk about that? And you agree on the whole question of red law... red laws? Red flag laws. Red flag laws. Red flag laws are what? Well, red flag laws were implemented that people would have their rights removed, without any due process, just by a sheer accusation from a loved one, a family member… Is that how you define them? That's exactly how it's defined by the law. And you... Hold on. One second. I've read the law. I've read the legislation. It says "we will take away your rights with no due process?" Please show me that. Because I've never seen that. Your firearms are taken away from you prior to getting a trial or being charged with a crime. So by claiming you're gonna commit a crime or you may commit a crime is very Draconian, and it affects a lot of people. And so a whole range of law enforcement professionals are supportive of that because they're concerned about guns getting in the hands of those who are dangerous and have mental health issues, or should not have a gun. Is this the due process issue that your colleague describes or the lack thereof? There is plenty of due process built into the law. There... I think it's after ten days, there's a hearing. And the whole point of red flag laws is that you get the gun away from the person that could be harming themselves or someone else. And in fact, in states that do have red flag laws, like in Connecticut, the gun suicide rate drops almost immediately. And so it's not about taking people's guns away. It's about... But aren't you concerned? But are you, in any way, concerned about guns being taken away from those who are law-abiding citizens? Aren't you concerned, on some level, about..."